Wednesday, July 15, 2009

Curry House

I was writing a post where I state that Stephen Curry will never make a single NBA All-Star game.

I tried to back it up using statistics, but came to realize that there was no good angle I could take. Ultimately it boils down to how much of a drop off you think there will be going from Mid-Major Davidson to the NBA this season, and if he can build it back up over the course of his career.

Let's start with his Davidson stats:

Season Averages
YRGMSMINPTSREBASTTOA/TSTLBLKPFFG%FT%3P%PPS
2008-093433.728.64.45.63.71.5/12.50.22.4.454.876.3871.42
2007-083633.125.94.62.92.61.1/12.00.42.4.483.894.4391.42
2006-073430.921.54.62.82.81/11.80.22.6.463.855.4081.40


Now we have to establish how he'll perform in the NBA.

In his peak three years I believe Stephen Curry will average no more than:
17 points per game
3 3-pointers per game
3 assists per game
1.5 steals per game
90% free throw percentage
37% 3-point percentage
45% field goal percentage

Here are ten seasons of past NBA guards within the past 5 years that come close to this mold

NameSeasonFG%3PT%FT%Pts/G3PT/GAst/GStl/G
Jason Richardson2006-07.417.367.65716.02.23.41.1
Cuttino Mobley2003-04.426.390.81115.82.13.21.3
Ben Gordon2007-08.434.410.90818.62.03.00.8
Ray Allen2007-08.445.398.90717.42.53.10.9
Eddie Jones2003-04.409.370.83517.32.23.21.1
Ben Gordon2005-06.422.435.78716.92.13.00.9
Michael Finley2003-04.443.405.85018.62.12.91.2
Leandro Barbosa2007-08.462.389.82215.62.02.60.9
Cuttino Mobley2004-05.438.439.82017.22.32.81.1
Joe Johnson2004-05.461.478.75017.12.23.51.0


There is only one All-Star among these players: Ray Allen. That season, Ray Allen had a much better first half than second half, so I partly blame that for an All-Star posting lower than usual overall season numbers.

In fact, none of the other players have been to an All-Star game at ANY point in their career, not just the years listed above.

Don't get me wrong, all of the other players are GOOD players. I think if Stephen Curry could be a Ben Gordon or an Eddie Jones or Cuttino Mobley, I think he will have had a good career. I just don't think it will have been a career that featured an All-Star game.

There may be some out there who are wondering about the Don Nelson factor. You're wondering if playing for a guy who runs high scoring offenses and spends more time every day wondering about breakfast sausage than improving team defense will inflate Curry's chances for making an All-Star team.

Consider these players who are short, scoring guards who played in one of Nelson's last six teams.

Monta Ellis 06-07, 07-08, 08-09
Baron Davis 06-07, 07-08
C.J. Watson 07-08, 08-09
Jason Terry 04-05
Devin Harris 04-05
Tony Delk 03-04
Nick Van Exel 02-03

Among them, zero All-Star appearances in those given years.

Obviously if you believe Stephen Curry will post better numbers than what I predict for him, then you have reason to believe he will one day be an All-Star. I just don't think so.

1 comment:

  1. Fine, its pretty difficult to say that he'll be an all star, but don't think you are making a stretch by saying that he won't be an all star. In fact, odds are that he won't be all-star. Being elected as an all star is difficult as it is with all this competition in the west. Think about it, Deron Williams, a point guard regarded as good enough to be on the Olympic squad that won the gold medal, has never been elected as an all star. So yea, he might never be an all-star, I'm pretty sure most people, if they thought about it, will agree with you. But he will most likely live up to his expectations as a lottery pick.

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